Talk:Ahmedabad

Don't Make falls claims, don't add misleading information

from Notable People section i have removed some names that are fallsly claimed, they are not born in ahemdabad or worked in ahemdabad.

Ali Sher Bengali

Kishore Chauhan

Prakash K. Desai

Drashti Dhami

Mahatma Gandhi

Sanjeev Kumar

Jhaverchand Meghani

Ketan Mehta

Sudhir Mehta

Rohinton Mistry

Smita Patil

Falguni Pathak

Amrita Pritam

Naseeruddin Shah

Ravi Shankar

Hemant Shesh

Manhar Udhas Annki777 (talk) 15:51, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

NPOV and fluff

Hey @SpunkyGeek - Thanks for collaborating on the Ahmedabad article. With respect to your edits, I wanted to point out two things.

1. The first sentence is both unsourced and comes across as a little biased with fluff. I removed it pursuant to the WP:NOR, WP:NPOV, and MOS:PUFFERY. The content itself is likely best covered in the “Early history” section when the city became a trade centre during the Mughal period.
2. The second sentence is best covered under the “Population” and “Culture” sections. I’ve cleaned up the former noting the population of the city relative to the other cities in India and the latter already includes references to monuments, museums, and festivals.

Following your review, let me know if you agree to remove the content from the “Post-Independence” section.

The 2010 FAR cited the article as having content issues including verifiability issues, low citation standards, and a biased POV as well as style issues including MOS:WEASEL and MOS:PUFFERY. To the extent you’re interested, I’d greatly appreciate it if you could help address these issues. Thanks!

The Shadow Hokage (talk) 17:27, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello @The Shadow Hokage

Thanks for discussing this.

1. About Ahmedabad's historical significance (focus is throughout its history not just Early History), the info comes from a legit source. If needed, I can back it up with another source. The part about it growing into a prosperous trade hub is pretty much straight facts. There’s no POV in it. Can back my claim here.
2. As for moving stuff around, I'm cool with shifting that statement to the Culture section. It makes sense. I can back that up too with more sources if you want.  

But I don’t think any puffery is involved here based on the sources.

~~~ SpunkyGeek (talk) 20:59, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Hey @SpunkyGeek - Thanks for engaging on this topic / issue!

On the #2 item, I'm glad we agree on moving that sentence and I'd certainly appreciate your help with the article.

On the #1 item, firstly, there is no citation directly identifying that sentence as currently drafted. Secondly, and more importantly, I still believe we should stay away from words like "prosperous." If the adverb is based on any industry or trade, we should include that specific industry or trade instead of words such as "prosperous," which could seemingly come across as a "peacock term." Looking at the source you have linked, I believe it would be appropriate to either speak about the textile industry in the "Modern history section" or perhaps include a quote about how in the 1990s, Ahmedabad "emerged as the financial capital of the state."

I reckon being mindful of the tone / words will go a long way towards resolving the issues brought up in the FAR and improve the overall quality of the article. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again!

The Shadow Hokage (talk) 04:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Hey @TheShadowHokage,

I want to explain the rationale behind using the term “prosperous” …

The timeline (“Over the years”) we want to focus on regarding 1st statement is modern history 19th and 20th  centuries (because almost every place has developed since the medieval ages) Here,  the author writes: -  “The establishment of the first cotton textile mill in 1861, without any special climatic advantage and before the advent of railways, and how this industry expanded over the years speaks for the high level of business acumen.” This statement signifies the industrialization in Ahmedabad (It’s called Manchester of India), also the author confirms migration to the city which is another signal of “prosperity” or development…

For the 21st century,

This article also emphasizes Ahmedabad being one of the successful cities in terms of growth and infra. Yes, I agree that economy and growth numbers are not the only indicators of absolute prosperity, but it does indicate improvement in the common lifestyle, and here we are talking about development over the years.... which seems pretty factual.

I understand the term “prosperous” may bring some POV, but we can rephrase it to something like :

"Post-independence Ahmedabad has seen development in manufacturing and infrastructure" SpunkyGeek (talk) 17:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Hey @SpunkyGeek - Apologies but I got sidetracked with work over the last few days. I have no issues with your proposed edit at the end and believe that it helps address the POV issues. Thanks again for your engagement on this article.

The Shadow Hokage (talk) 01:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Administration

Is the "City of Ahmedabad" coterminous with the boundaries of the Ahmedabad district? It seems to be heavily implied, but never explicitly said that the municipal corporation covers the same area as the administrative district. That needs to be made clear on both this article and the article for the district and even on the article for the municipal corporation. Criticalthinker (talk) 00:17, 19 April 2025 (UTC)