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About whether UK is Two party system or Multi-party system
[edit]On the page Politics of the United Kingdom, the second paragraph says it is a multi-party system, but I am seeking views of other knowledgeable Wikipedians.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 23:02, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
- Noting one UK Wikipedian believes the UK has a two-party system here.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 01:02, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- Copying a comment from a user on the Talk:Politics of the United Kingdom page:--Tomwsulcer (talk) 10:20, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- The Conservatives and Labour are the two most dominant party in parliament. Until the last election, these parties formed government alone for the last half century. The Lib Dims are a smaller party (but not a minor one) and are currently king-makers in a coalition government. Scotland, Wales and (particularly) Northern Ireland have their own parties, which are present in the Westminister parliament. Minor parties are also represented in the Westminister parliament (e.g. UKIP and the Greens). So, no, the UK is not two-party system. It is a multi-party system. --Tóraí (talk) 00:10, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- I am listening to a Teaching Company lecture on history of conservatism by scholar Patrick Allitt who said, surprisingly to me, that both the US and UK had two-party systems in the sense that with the UK, if party Z won 20% of the vote, it would get less than 20% of the seats -- he was referring to the UK in the mid 20th century, which confirms a sentence in the lede, although my own view is the US is more of a two-party system in the sense that practically no seats get won by 3rd party candidates.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:20, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
The UK may have multiple parties but it is only two parties who ever lead it. The Conservatives and Labour (and before them Conservatives and Liberals). Even the last coalition was effectively a Tory govt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.80.255.163 (talk) 11:06, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Australian politics
[edit]If in Australia there are not two technical parties but rather two major political groupings, well the article should indicate this (within the body of the text) and let's leave it as a reference note in the lede sentence -- the reason being that there are two major types of two-party systems (as the article explains) -- the strict type (US, Jamaica, Malta) in which there are no third party legislators (a HUGE FLAW in US politics imho) and much more sensible looser systems such as Britain and Australia, in which there tend to be two dominant major parties, but in which other parties can get candidates elected to office. I'd much rather be a citizen of Australia or New Zealand. But getting back to the point, the change in wording is not substantial enough to merit inclusion in the lede sentence; if one wishes, maybe an article about two-party coalitions in Australian politics can be floated.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:11, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Ireland
[edit]Despite coalitions and additional representation, politics in the ROI is a stitch up between Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil which are little different and have held power for decades. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.80.255.163 (talk) 11:04, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
United States
[edit]The two-party system in the United States is the only such system where other parties are virtually absent from national politics which makes them a unique oddity in the democratic world. Because of this, I think it should have its own article. Charles Essie (talk) 21:00, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- I support this, if all the necessary sources and information can be gathered, I'm all for it. Noam Chomsky had some very noteworthy views of the United States' "two-party" system that would be important in a new page for the subject. Temeku (talk) 01:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- I support this too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovin'Politics (talk • contribs) 09:08, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Support, I am sure that there are many case studies about the nature of the Duopoly of political power in the United States. PyroFloe (talk) 17:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- I support this too. Good reasoning. Prodrummer619 (talk) 18:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- I oppose this on the grounds that we already have a main article for that section: Political parties in the United States. Two-party system in the United States should redirect to that article. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:33, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- There's more info about it here so unless you plan to merge the content on this page over there it would make no sense to change the redirect. Charles Essie (talk) 16:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- I oppose this on grounds that the US is NOT the only strictly-two-party system in the world. Jamaica, Belize, and Trinidad and Tobago all have no third parties in their legislatures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caleb M1 (talk • contribs) 14:09, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
- That's because those are small countries with small legislatures. What makes the United States a unique case is that it has a two-party duopoly in spite of its size and diversity. Charles Essie (talk) 16:29, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- Support It's surprising that such an article doesn't exist yet. The two party system of the US is pretty well-known and covered by multiple media and publications. It deserves its own article. PadFoot2008 (talk) 05:39, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support America's two party system is unique in it's corporate duopoly. As third parties don't stand a chance compared to other countries with a parliamentary system. This alone can be a basis for an article. Rager7 (talk) 17:22, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
"One-party state 2.0" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]A discussion is taking place to address the redirect One-party state 2.0. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 7#One-party state 2.0 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. dudhhrContribs 17:58, 7 June 2021 (UTC)